Dantheman,Hi!I did'nt wear my badge when I got 'out' of the grounds.I used to book into a hotel or holiday home miles away from the ground so I would'nt have to associate with them all when I was fading but did'nt want too many questions asked...I'd also take the carpark plot notice out of the car window so I could go out and about in peace.
i'd miss friday, arrive on sat morning,show my face and then go off for the day.Sunday would be spent on a day out with the children(they never found conventions taxing!)It's amazing how noone notices if you don't agree to sit or meet up-just keep arrangements general,and you'll have a lovely-stress free holiday with no hassle!
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Can YOU make a difference?!
by termite 35 inthe conventions in britain are starting very soon...in just a few weeks expensive cars will sweep on to muddied fields,.
picnickers will proudly display the latest tupperware items.
nylon suited men and modest women will promenade around the functional plastic seating.
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by ballistic ini was brought up in the truth from a very young age.
i became indoctrinated by age 5 and the truth shaped my life.
i took the truth very seriously.
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sorry about the weird first part of that post; I had to copy it and it went a bit weird!I am also pissed, so that dos'nt heelp either!
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by ballistic ini was brought up in the truth from a very young age.
i became indoctrinated by age 5 and the truth shaped my life.
i took the truth very seriously.
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Hi Ballistic;I am one of those who was preached to in later life...I was 20 with 1 child and another on the way-living with and happy with my boyfriend.Unfortunately suffered from postnatal depression as many mothers do, but that's when they 'pounced'I was never bapsised; but guilt of not 'progressing' to baptism kept me hanging on in there for 10+ years.Throughout all that time I brought up my children to believe the crap they taught me and suceeded in upsetting the whole balance of my relationships with my partner; my mother; my friends;and my family.I guess I felt anger when I found out about the un situation,and anger when all my husbands friends would make my life a living hell,but now I feel sad; sad that I wasted so much time; sad that I hurt my family;and sad that I now have to spend so much time rebuilding the parts of my life I unknowingly nearly ruined.I am lucky in that my friends never left me, neither did my husband or family-but it came close a few times- now they tell me they were waiting for the old me to come back-i'm so glad they did.I went to a housewarming party tonight and who was there but the woman I studied with and her hubby !They are both still jw's and the last time I saw her we had our one and only 'row' about child abuse and the un sit..I was so proud of my husband..he and I spoke to them in a really friendly way- had a few drinks and had a bloody good time-my feelings?I just wished they wer'nt jw's as they'll never knowingly put themselves in our path again- but how sad when we get on so well and had such a laugh together with all the other heathens there!I HATE that part of my life now-and do still feel a little anger-but I guess we're all vunerable sometimes and we should'nt condem ourselves for something we chose in a different stage of our lives.I just hope my children don't feel about me as perhaps you feel about your parents...I was only doing what I thought to be right at the time...and we all make mistakes.I hope that it's made me an even more tolerant person,less quick to judge and certainly tonight I can say I honestly love everyone at the hall who was good to me-but I just have to let them go.The ones who were bastards can go to hell and they know I won't hold back if I meet them,but they stay out of my way!As for the 'truth'?The truth is for people who cannot handle the ugly reality of life,we were cowards,insecure and childish,unable to deal with the weightier subjects of life...I feel angry at times for the injustice I suffered; but basically relieved that it's all over and I got out in one piece.I guess I do feel duped-but that was,nt the fault of my study conductor; or your parents; they probably still don't know the faults in the society-how can you check a society like that?We're jusy really nice people who wanted the world to be a good place to be...don't be angry, take it as proof that you care about the big questions!! xxx
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Can YOU make a difference?!
by termite 35 inthe conventions in britain are starting very soon...in just a few weeks expensive cars will sweep on to muddied fields,.
picnickers will proudly display the latest tupperware items.
nylon suited men and modest women will promenade around the functional plastic seating.
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The Conventions in Britain are starting very soon...In just a few weeks expensive cars will sweep on to muddied fields,
Picnickers will proudly display the latest Tupperware items
Nylon suited men and modest women will promenade around the functional plastic seating
The tantalising aroma of freshly cooked burgers and hotdogs with onions and exotic tomatoey sauces will delight the senses,
The musical treat will enrapture lovers of echoey, upright pianos everywhere,
But what if this experience of cultured society does not appeal?
Strange as ir seems,this type of event does not delight all..So; how can we help them to get out of it?
Suggestions for those who do not wish to be there ,but who cannot convinsingly fake their own death please.You CAN make a difference-PLEASE- give all you can...
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Help, my son misses the hall...
by termite 35 inhe really does.. we had a long chat tonight and he was really sad.we were never integrated into jw society,so it's not the people;he justsaid ...'want to belong to god's family'?
!i went through a few more points as to why the wtbs wer'nt the 'right' religion and asked him if he felt god was happy with people who lie.he re-accepted that and then said'so,how do you know where to go?i tried to explain it by asking him if he thought god looked at congregations or individuals and we got to the conclusion that it's probably individuals.... my point is, he wants to go to his teachers church,and i don't.my husband has never been interested in religion in any form and as the months go by,i feel less and less inclined to be involved in any religion.he has a strong christian theme at his school, but done nicely, so i know his desperation is,nt all 'my fault' but i feel guilty at making him so desperate to find the place he feels comfortable in.he's only 8 and an obsessed sports fan who has a very loving ,full life-but he's unhappy at night and i'm so worried it's my fault.i feel so depressed tonight and responsible for messing up his head with it all.the point is.... do i take him to his teachers church even though i have no desire to?how long would i have to go, feeling a hypocrite?.
what will it do to him if i don't try to help him practically with how he's feeling?.
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Sorry Auntiejane; did'nt see your post;I'm at the stage after all the trouble i've been through,of trying to sort my self out,I hav'nt reached the stage of looking for another religion yet; i'm still reeling from the last one!My mother was a s/ school teacher, so I was always taken to church and had a good time...It's a shame she's not here anymore... the perfect soloution for my son and I !I think i'm going to have to bite the bullet and go, but to commit myself to a cong. is not a pleasant thought at the moment...this is a small town too; i'll go from termite the jw-to termite the born again/rc/co of e etc and I don't want to identify with anyone religion!I don't want to end up having to leave another one,and uoset him all over again.Perhaps we could come to an agreement of going once a month,and i'll get involved in the charity rather than the worship side...Thanks-have a good day XX
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Help, my son misses the hall...
by termite 35 inhe really does.. we had a long chat tonight and he was really sad.we were never integrated into jw society,so it's not the people;he justsaid ...'want to belong to god's family'?
!i went through a few more points as to why the wtbs wer'nt the 'right' religion and asked him if he felt god was happy with people who lie.he re-accepted that and then said'so,how do you know where to go?i tried to explain it by asking him if he thought god looked at congregations or individuals and we got to the conclusion that it's probably individuals.... my point is, he wants to go to his teachers church,and i don't.my husband has never been interested in religion in any form and as the months go by,i feel less and less inclined to be involved in any religion.he has a strong christian theme at his school, but done nicely, so i know his desperation is,nt all 'my fault' but i feel guilty at making him so desperate to find the place he feels comfortable in.he's only 8 and an obsessed sports fan who has a very loving ,full life-but he's unhappy at night and i'm so worried it's my fault.i feel so depressed tonight and responsible for messing up his head with it all.the point is.... do i take him to his teachers church even though i have no desire to?how long would i have to go, feeling a hypocrite?.
what will it do to him if i don't try to help him practically with how he's feeling?.
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Island woman ,some congs are like that ar'nt they?then you tend see the society on a local level projected on to an international scale and assume they're all like that.I know a few people who want to stay, no matter what,as they love the association so much(that's NOT a dig at your son)Be happy.XX
#MEOMY,you've hit the nail on the head; that was my origional problem, I do want to go with him somewhere for his sake, but I can't go as i'd feel a hypocrite;I think the answer will be to go to a non denominational church occasionally and hopefully when he's older he'll just carry it on if he wants to,on his own.Hope it's enough to satisfy him,and not panic me!XXXthanks you lot!you're great.X
the sun is shining,i'm off to have lunch in a Dorset pub garden with my greatest friend and i've got 3 more orders for paintings!
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Help, my son misses the hall...
by termite 35 inhe really does.. we had a long chat tonight and he was really sad.we were never integrated into jw society,so it's not the people;he justsaid ...'want to belong to god's family'?
!i went through a few more points as to why the wtbs wer'nt the 'right' religion and asked him if he felt god was happy with people who lie.he re-accepted that and then said'so,how do you know where to go?i tried to explain it by asking him if he thought god looked at congregations or individuals and we got to the conclusion that it's probably individuals.... my point is, he wants to go to his teachers church,and i don't.my husband has never been interested in religion in any form and as the months go by,i feel less and less inclined to be involved in any religion.he has a strong christian theme at his school, but done nicely, so i know his desperation is,nt all 'my fault' but i feel guilty at making him so desperate to find the place he feels comfortable in.he's only 8 and an obsessed sports fan who has a very loving ,full life-but he's unhappy at night and i'm so worried it's my fault.i feel so depressed tonight and responsible for messing up his head with it all.the point is.... do i take him to his teachers church even though i have no desire to?how long would i have to go, feeling a hypocrite?.
what will it do to him if i don't try to help him practically with how he's feeling?.
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Thanks all!you're brilliant!!!
I'd better go;hubby's tutting...!!!!!
Ballistic; when are you about?Let's get that drink...
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Help, my son misses the hall...
by termite 35 inhe really does.. we had a long chat tonight and he was really sad.we were never integrated into jw society,so it's not the people;he justsaid ...'want to belong to god's family'?
!i went through a few more points as to why the wtbs wer'nt the 'right' religion and asked him if he felt god was happy with people who lie.he re-accepted that and then said'so,how do you know where to go?i tried to explain it by asking him if he thought god looked at congregations or individuals and we got to the conclusion that it's probably individuals.... my point is, he wants to go to his teachers church,and i don't.my husband has never been interested in religion in any form and as the months go by,i feel less and less inclined to be involved in any religion.he has a strong christian theme at his school, but done nicely, so i know his desperation is,nt all 'my fault' but i feel guilty at making him so desperate to find the place he feels comfortable in.he's only 8 and an obsessed sports fan who has a very loving ,full life-but he's unhappy at night and i'm so worried it's my fault.i feel so depressed tonight and responsible for messing up his head with it all.the point is.... do i take him to his teachers church even though i have no desire to?how long would i have to go, feeling a hypocrite?.
what will it do to him if i don't try to help him practically with how he's feeling?.
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Dutchie; I meant plate on stick-doh!You know what I was trying to say!
Island Woman-wow, what a situation to be in;that must be hard on him;My girls have left friends behind too, but although we did'nt get invited out much I was still good enough to take jw kids out on trips!we used to have them with us and they miss them-but always had seperate lives-school and hall, so they're ok in that sense.Does your son still feel it's 'the truth'?I hope he dos'nt get baptised-Perhaps when he goes to college he'll feel a little less ...it's the feeling responsible that i hate so much..mind you, I went to sunday school as a child and never felt as powerfully about it as our boys do..It must be the ONLY ONE TRUE RELIGION WILL BE SAVED message...perhaps that's what needs researching as a condition before baptism for him?XXXX
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Help, my son misses the hall...
by termite 35 inhe really does.. we had a long chat tonight and he was really sad.we were never integrated into jw society,so it's not the people;he justsaid ...'want to belong to god's family'?
!i went through a few more points as to why the wtbs wer'nt the 'right' religion and asked him if he felt god was happy with people who lie.he re-accepted that and then said'so,how do you know where to go?i tried to explain it by asking him if he thought god looked at congregations or individuals and we got to the conclusion that it's probably individuals.... my point is, he wants to go to his teachers church,and i don't.my husband has never been interested in religion in any form and as the months go by,i feel less and less inclined to be involved in any religion.he has a strong christian theme at his school, but done nicely, so i know his desperation is,nt all 'my fault' but i feel guilty at making him so desperate to find the place he feels comfortable in.he's only 8 and an obsessed sports fan who has a very loving ,full life-but he's unhappy at night and i'm so worried it's my fault.i feel so depressed tonight and responsible for messing up his head with it all.the point is.... do i take him to his teachers church even though i have no desire to?how long would i have to go, feeling a hypocrite?.
what will it do to him if i don't try to help him practically with how he's feeling?.
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Ballistic;I thought the world cup would do the trick...!!!
dannybear ; I did just what your wife did and left at 14;But I do feel weird 'leaving' him somewhere..i'll have to combine it with friends going as Valis suggested I think-what a lovely thought-that he's spreading his wings a little!I had'nt thought of it in such a lovely way ,you optomist(sp?!-it's late...!) you!
Dutchie;don't worry!I know wwhat it's like; just keep that plate on your head moving-ok?!